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February 28, 2005
The New Silent Majority
Vodkapundit has another anecdote from a liberal hawk friend in the closet, and asks, "Could folks like us be the new Silent Majority?"Yes. Yes. And yes. I formed an entire social circle in NYC out of people who are hawkish neo-con liberals, who have to be in the closet around their lefty friends (which is 75% of Manhattan, especially in the arts and social services, like most of these people). We have a listserv, and go to events, and socialize together and everything. A lot of us met through campaigning for Bush. Others met through LGF comment threads. There are 50 people on this list.
We also hang out with the local Republicans, but we are not of them. We are the Lieberman Democrats and the Schwarzenegger Republicans and the Andy Sullivan/Chris Hitchens "eagles." Roger Simon, Michael Totten, Charles Johnson, Jeff Jarvis, Michele Catalano, and Meryl Yourish are a few of our bloggers. We don't agree on everything, but we all recognize that we occupy roughly the same political space.
I think it's time we put together a book of our essays (Whittle was a good start) and formed an official movement. The only problem is what to call it. I just think "eagle" (Sullivan's take) is corny. My group is called NYC Liberal Hawks, which works for us, for now.
I think something is in the air, because someone on our listserv just wrote a long frustrated email to the list about our constituency having all this energy and passion with no place to put it. Then I read Stephen's post.
UPDATE: Cinnamon Stillwell too.
UPDATE: Jeff Jarvis, apropos of a post by Hugh Hewitt:
I'm a Howard-Stern-loving, gay-marriage-backing, prochoice, Clinton-voting, separation-of-church-and-state, cabernet-guzzling Christian. . . . Hugh [ Hewitt ] and I have disagreed online about religion -- and he has invited me on his air to disagree with him -- and he was most cordial; just because we disagreed he didn't call me an atheist ... the way some liberals we know want to call me conservative just because we disagree.Yes.
UPDATE: Via Gerard, Varifrank on Jarvis' dilemma. I like the metaphor.
Also via Gerard, Bleeding Brain describes how he decides who gets to be a member of his club. He's also got a name for it and he's designing a flag and proposing a constitution.
UPDATE: Stephen Green on why he will never be a conservative:
Keep the Democrats out of my wallet and the Republicans out of my entertainment. Please.
UPDATE: Done With Mirrors also thinks it's time for a book.
RELATED: Ilyka, apropos of a particular meeting of the minds you have to go to her blog to learn more about: "The raving moonbats, they are the real uniters-not-dividers in this country, I swear--because most of us, most of the time, can agree on what "crazy" looks like."
Judith | 02/28/05 at 07:12 PM | Categories: Liberal hawks and friends
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Great ideas to form a group with a name. Eagle sounds too much like Phyllis Schlafley's Eage Forum. NYC Liberal Hawks works well. The term I've used to describe myself is "free thinker," meaning I am not beholden to any ideology. Some other ideas:
Free Wheelers
Bull Moose Brigade (ID'd with the GOP, but who knows that?)
Lords of Chaos
Rough n' Readies
TexasHoldEm | February 28, 2005 09:04 PM
We need a group out here in the West Coast. LA is not really the hinterlands, except that sometimes it just seems that way.
Anonymous | March 1, 2005 11:50 AM
I think a lot of liberals and libertarians vote Republican because the conservatives are pro-democracy and anti-fascist. The American Left is not, and the new motto of the Democrats is ‘if you’re not with us, you’re against us’.
Since I disagree with conservatives on social issues like gay marriage, I can’t call myself a Republican.
Anti-fascist might work, but it’s a bit heavy handed. How about taking a suggestion from Salon and calling ourselves "liberals who think"?
maryatexitzero | March 1, 2005 05:47 PM
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