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January 23, 2006
In the comments, saxcriminal points to an interesting interview in the London Times with Steven Spielberg about his film, Munich. Saxcriminal thinks it lame; I think it is interesting, if only because it shows the extent of Spielberg's self-delusion.
It turns out now that even George Jonas, the author of the much discredited work, Vengeance, on which Munich is based, believes that Spielberg does something which his book never did, which is elide the difference between terrorism and counter-terrorism.
Ooh, the ironies just compound and compound.
Jonas himself, the originator of Avner in his book, insists that “my Avner may have questioned the utility of his mission toward the end — targeted assassinations barely slowed down terrorism, let alone stopped it — but he never questioned the morality of what his country had asked him to do. He had no pangs of guilt”...Jonas has another charge: “Spielberg’s Munich follows the letter of my book closely enough. The spirit is almost the opposite. Vengeance holds there is a difference between terrorism and counterterrorism; Munich suggests there isn’t. The book has no trouble telling an act of war from a war crime; the film finds it difficult. Spielberg’s movie worries about the moral trap of resisting terror; my book worries about the moral trap of not resisting it.”
This is the argument of those who accuse Spielberg of the “sin of equivalency”. The director denies that he is simplistically postulating that violence begets violence.
While the interview is entitled Disagree wtih me - that's what I want, a sentiment he echoes in the interview, it turns out that, like many in Hollywood, Spielberg is absolutely unequipped emotionally to deal with the reality of people disagreeing with him.
Spielberg countered: “It is fascinating to watch people who really only want their assumptions confirmed by what they are taking into the theatre. They go into the film and they shave off everything and anything that challenges their assumptions. They sculpt this movie to be what they want it to be. They are really looking for a simple-minded thesis.
And then, of course there are filmmakers, who take history itself and shave off everything that doesn't fit their simple minded theses. But that's art, which ya know is high-minded. So that's all right then.
To continue with Spielberg:
“I think the film is effective because it does what history books really can’t do, which is to ask questions that may not have an immediate answer, and I think this frustrates people.
And it frustrates people even more when the questions asked are based on a fantasy and speciousness rather than history itself.
“I have always been taught that in democratic society discussion is the greatest good you can perform, the most valuable thing you can do. It’s part of my Jewish tradition and it’s Talmudic. I encourage people to agree or disagree with what I am doing. But not by saying it was bad to have ever made this film. That’s political censorship disguised as criticism and that’s not what I am accustomed to in the marketplace of democracy.”
And of course Spielberg loves and supports Israel, so whatever he does to tarnish her image publicly is thereby excused.
Previous posts on Spielberg's Munich here
Alcibiades | 01/23/06 at 10:18 AM | Categories: - Munich Massacre
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Alcibiades:
I agree with you that Spielberg sounds ridiculous in this interview. He comes across as more clueless and egotistical than ever. The lamest part is that he still insists the movie is true, even though the new book Striking Back uses official Israeli sources (which Spielberg says are not available) showing that Spielberg's film is total fiction. What a putz.
saxcriminal | January 23, 2006 12:37 PM
For me Captain's Quqarters blog summed it up in his December post;
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/cat_film.php
By equating the two sides, Spielberg and the world gave the perpetrators of terrorism the same moral standing as its victims, especially when the victims sought to ensure that their enemies could not live long enough to plan more such attacks. It's like saying that the perpetrators of Lidice were certainly naughty, but the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich was just as bad. It's absurd, and the absence of any mention of this fundamental, yawning chasm between the Israelis and the PLO/Black September terrorists provide the only true allegory in Munich -- the defeatism in which Avner ...
What has truly shocked one is that it is Spielberg who brought this message of revenge when at the time the Israeli message was that the "poets and intellectuals" would not get a second chance.
That terrorism continued in the face of the reprisal was mainly because of the West's indulgence with the states supporting it and rewarding the groups by pandering to their extortionate practices.
Cynic
| January 23, 2006 12:52 PM
Meanwhile, looks like the Los Angeles Times is doing spin for Spielberg and blaming the neocons...
saxcriminal | January 23, 2006 01:27 PM
Tony Kushner has also opened his pie hole:
Los Angeles Times January 22, 2006
Defending 'Munich' to my mishpocheh By Tony Kushner.
Mostly he refutes straw men and never engages critics like Bret Stephens and David Brooks.
Robert Schwartz | January 23, 2006 02:18 PM
When I was a kid watching the news about the massacre in Munich and the Israeli response to terrorism, I decided that the Israelis were heroes and Yasser Arafat was the most evil man on the planet. When I lived in Los Angeles, I thought that many of the people in the movie business were living in a fantasy world, somewhat self-centered and uninformed.
Spielberg's 'Munich' didn't change my first assumptions, and it confirmed the latter.
Spielberg is at his best when he expresses a genuine of childlike sensibility, something from the heart, good vs. evil. He's at his worst when he preaches, or tries to present a "adult" point of view. He winds up with something phony, like Munich, or something phony and saccharine, like AI.
mary | January 23, 2006 06:43 PM
Cross the stream where it is shallowest... Ellois
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