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March 08, 2006
When Mad Messianists Meet
Ahmadinejad and the anti-Zionist sect Neturei Karta agree on one thing. To bring the Messiah - either the Jewish or Islamic version - you must first destroy the state of Israel. Which makes it perfectly natural for them to meet in Iran and join forces, as it were.
Which is why it makes perfect sense that a delegation from Neturei Karta paid a solidarity visit to Iran.
[Neturei Karta] added that they were "upset about the recent ploys, propaganda and tensions which have been created by the West regarding the statements of the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad about a world free of Zionism, since this is nothing more than wishing for a better world dominated by peace and calm."It is well known that Neturei Karta has a strict messianic code by which they reject all Jewish intercession in the world - such as a human establishment of the state of Israel - which they believe will set back the coming of the Messiah, who will only come based on God's will at the end of history. But still, this does not quite explain why they join with Ahmadinejad in Holocaust denial:
At the meeting, according to the Iranian news agency IRNA, Weiss "praised the 'enlightening' statements of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad about the Holocaust and said the establishment of a Zionist government and occupation of Palestine are contrary to the injunctions of Judaism."They appear to be in accord with Ahmadinejad that European guilt at the Holocaust was no reason to found the state of Israel. But one wonders why they are ostensibly claiming it didn't happen at all.
Of course, these types, they are not precisely rationalists...
UPDATE: Netrei Karta should meet Bob Persinger who helped liberate Jews from a concentration camp.
Bob Persinger ... remembers half-dead prisoners singing and cheering, and the way he was whipsawed between elation and horror: “They were celebrating like you wouldn't believe, they were so happy. So were we, but on the other hand, we were crying.”61 years later, he meets one of the Jews from the concentration camp he rescued from imminent death.
Alcibiades | 03/08/06 at 10:58 AM | Categories: - Iran
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netrei karta is one of those Jewish organizations that would never have gotten any attention except for their opposition to the Jewish State.
Their reason for opposing it is their dislike of modernity, especially Jewish modernity. The fact that Jews can make their own choices about how to practice their faith really bothers them.
They see Israel as the place were Jews are too free and they hope that by destroying it they will force Jews to live in ghettos like in the good old days and sit around all day listening to their version of Judaism.
What they don't understand, and their sense of history is willfully weak, is that that is no longer an option.
To critique them properly one would need to study their views not just of Israel but of modern Judaism and their sense of history. From what I have read it is too bizarre for words.
scribe | March 8, 2006 09:44 PM
netrei karta is one of those Jewish organizatios that would never have gotten any attention except for their opposition to the Jewish State.
Their reasons for opposing it is their dislike of modernity, especially Jewish modernity. The fact that Jews can make their own choices about how to practice their faith really bothers them.
They see Israel as the place were Jews are too free and they hope that by dstroying it they will force Jews to live in ghettos like in the good old days and sit around all day listening to their version of Judaism.
What they don't understand, and their sense of history is wilfully weak
scribe | March 8, 2006 09:53 PM
That the recognition of the State of Israel came on the heels of the Holocaust was a case of coincidental timing. The allies just happened to defeat Hitler before he managed to completely annihilate all of European Jewry. Herzl forsaw what was coming many decades earlier.
This Holocaust linkage also denies the destruction of the Jewish communities in Muslim countries, which started long before 1948. And so much for Ahmadinejad's claim to Muslim blamelessness when it comes to the dispossession of Jews that helped populate the new Jewish state. Indeed, Edmond Black, writing in the JTF, notes that the Shah of Iran during Hitler's time was very actively pro-Nazi and anti-Semetic.
Lynne | March 9, 2006 01:13 PM
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