Touche! I'll come out with a stronger message. Kudos to this post.

Thank you, Jay, that means a lot to me. We all get defensive about issues we care about, and it certainly helps me to be principled when I have other examples to look up to.

Let me know when your post is up and I'll put a link at the top of this post.

I do call it antisemitism to advocate targeting a Jewish family for harassment because they attempted to challenge explicit bias in the public school system.

For this to be anti-semetic, you would have to believe that Nedd would not have made a personal attack these people if they were not Jewish. Do you believe that?

Ms. Weiss, Jay from StoptheACLU.com is being disingenuous to the point of lying, in claiming there are two distinct entities involved. From his own posting at his own blog, my emphasis:

by Jay on 01-04-06 @ 12:15 pm Filed under About Us

Stop The ACLU.Com is the official blog of Stop The ACLU.Org. Our goal is to bring public awareness to the radical agenda of the American Civil Liberties Union. We are a grass roots effort to organize and get the general public actively involved in a campaign to stop the radical agenda of the ACLU, and the secular cleansing of America. You can get involved, and share your ideas with us by joining our Discussion Forum or our Blogburst Team. All you have to do is email me at Jay@stoptheaclu.com!

We also want you to join the coalition [i.e., StoptheACLU.org - ed. Mona], which will be the active arm of our organization, organizing protests, letter campaigns, etc.

As another ex ACLU (tho still on the mail list), I have to say this is one disgusting story.

I can find absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between what is alleged here in Delaware, and the civil intimidation, and hideous dawa one might find elswhere on this planet.

This school district needs to distinguish between the presence of god in our conscience while we are in school and the PROSELETYZING for a separate religion in the same place.

These complete morons are a case study in fools of the christian right. The people who yelled 'take off your yarmulke', and the board of this district exemplify what is WRONG with mentioning jesus in school and it is THEY who make it compulsory to remove this from school and govt, NOT people with a different belief set. If they had any sense their own sensibilities, and Jesus like desire to put on the other's shoe, would make it very clear to them where they are treading.

Instead just like arrogant salafis, religious supremism prevails in their own mind to the point of driving out their own neighbors.

HIDEOUS !

Look, I never said we were not connected. I only stated we were seperate things. I can't control what Nedd does. I updated MY post, not Kenders which I'm sure many will be offended by. MY post says that I will try to convince Nedd to change his mind about using this particular method.

"For this to be anti-semetic, you would have to believe that Nedd would not have made a personal attack these people if they were not Jewish."

I take your point. But he is defending official crosses in public schools. That says that Jewish (and other non-Christian) sensibilities don't matter. (It is also clearly counter to the establishment clause.)

In this case the plaintiff was a Jewish family, and there was nothing from Ned that showed he at least understood their POV.

As I point out in my own (frequently updated) post on the matter, Nedd Kareiva attacks them for wanting to “impose their atheism” on the community. Evidently, he thought that the family was an atheist family, not a Jewish family — or he was lying here in order to portray the family as worse. Either way, I think he should be accused of anti-atheist bigotry rather than anti-Semitic or racial bigotry.

Some of the Christians in the community, though, can justifiably be accused of anti-Semitism.

Kudos to you, Judith. This is the first non-Democratic website I've seen to actually criticize StoptheACLU's vicious methods--all the heavy hitters on the right (Instapundit, Powerline) are still trying to defend it.

I do have a question, though. "Then Jay throws the ball back into the lefty bloggers' court. Yes, they do the same thing…"

You kind of make it sound like both sides are equal, and that liberals use these tactics as much as conseravatives do.

I know Glenn Greenwald (the leading critic of StopTheACLU) certainly doesn't post home addresses or phone numbers with phrases like "hunt them down," as conservative blogger Rocco DiPippo did to a photographer freelancing for the NYTimes travel section. I can think of only one prominent liberal blogger who used this tactic (Jesus' General on Michelle Malkin)--and he removed the information & apologized pretty shortly thereafter. And that was *after* Malkin had encouraged a hate & harassment campaign against three students. Do you have any other examples of prominent lefty bloggers posting home phone numbers & encouraging harassment?

"all the heavy hitters on the right (Instapundit, Powerline) are still trying to defend it."

I read Insta and Powerline every day and I have seen nothing defending it. Can you supply a link?

"You kind of make it sound like both sides are equal, and that liberals use these tactics as much as conseravatives do."

Yes they do. Maybe even more. I never said Glenn Greenwald does. This example is from this week. Jeff's blog is offline now.

Malkin only posted public contact information that had been on flyers and such, so JG's response took it to another level.

In 2004 an Indy site posted names of local residents who had donated to the Bush campaign and suggested picketing their businesses and homes. There were the protests outside Cheney's home and Code Pink outside Walter Reed Hospital where soldiers are recuperating. That is targeting individuals in their private spaces. There have been others too, if I remember I'll post them.

Umm...I don't usually post on blogs but having done lots of indpenedent research on this whole issue I'd have to say that it is totally unbelievable that someone would defend this guy with a comment that "he is half jewish."

A google search of his name brings up this quote: "Nedd Kareiva is a 45 year old man from Chicago who began the Stop the ACLU web site in August of 2004. His background is varied which includes a degree in Biblical studies. He once served as the associate director of the Christian Broadcasting Network's Chicago counseling center when such centers were operating in major cities across America. He also spent 6+ years in real estate and mortgages and also worked for the city of Chicago for 3 1/2 years. He served as the singles director in the 1990s for a church in southwest Chicago. He has a 9 year old son with Asperger's Syndrome, a form of autism.

Nedd got involved in political issues back in the early 90s when his mother and late stepdad took an active position in the pro-life movement. They were pro-life activists and even went to jail for their stances. Thanks to them and a church willing to deal with issues, his political involvement began to set in motion." you can read more here: http://www.restoringamerica.org/Editorials/Kareiva/nedd_kareiva.htm)

He most certainly identifies himself as a Christian fundamentalist. I also thought (although now I can't find the link) that the address/phone he posted was the family's new number. Regardless it is a despicable thing for anyone to do. Seriously, have our politics become that childish that the only way we have to get our point across is by shameless personal attacks?