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August 15, 2006

... And wait for the ricochet.

The abortive Israel/Hezbollah war leads to a redrawing of lines and a strengthening of sides - and an old disease crops up in Britain.

Big Pharaoh on Hezbollah war fallout. Big Pharaoh quotes bloggers on Nasrallah. Raja

It is true that Hizballah survived this onslaught, and in so doing, was able to achieve an unprecedented feat. However, it failed to accomplish anything else, and nomatter how much better it prepared for this war, could not have accomplished more. On that note, I have a message I wish to convey to Nasrallah (and I think I speak for the majority of Lebanese when I say this): Enough. ... The Israelis are now taking their Prime Minister to task for his folly. It would be a BIG shame if the Lebanese (including your own constituents, Mr. Nasrallah) do not take you to task. Did you really pose a deterrence to Israel? Could they have inflicted any more damage to the country? Were you the one who prevented them from doing so? Were your arms worth the price all of us paid? Can Lebanon continue like this? Will Lebanon be able to get back on its feet if you do not alter your own course? And finaly, can you and your organization, Mr. Nasrallah, really survive without Lebanon?
Charles Malik (formerly Lebanon.Profile) has this to say:

I didn't believe Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah when he said Hezbollah has more than 15,000 missiles.

I didn't believe any of the Hezbollah cheerleaders who claimed that Hezbollah soldiers are as good or better than most of the premier special forces units outside of the Western world. I took it as a given that they are the best fighting troops amongst the Arab countries, which is not saying much, but better than Iran, Pakistan, India? ...

Former UNIFIL spokesman Timur Goksel regularly spoke and speaks about the professionalism of Hezbollah. ...

I always doubted him. I believed him to a degree, but I thought he was exaggerating, even when we spoke just after the 12 July conflict began.

I was wrong.


Citing Michael Totten and Lisa Goldman, Malik says, "I realize just how much damage Hezbollah has inflicted on Israel." There's much more at the link, and it's well worth reading. And go to Big Pharaoh's post for more links. (various via BP)

MosNews: Hezbollah had Russian weapons? We're shocked! Via The Intelligence Summit, MosNews notes with some pride: 'Abandoned Hezbollah positions in Lebanon yesterday revealed conclusive evidence that Syria — and almost certainly Iran — provided the Russian-made anti-tank missiles that have blunted the power of Israel’s once invincible armor, the Daily Telegraph reported. After one of the fiercest confrontations of the war, Israeli forces took the small town of Ghandouriyeh, east of the southern city of Tyre, on Sunday evening, hours before a ceasefire brokered by the United Nations took effect. ... The discovery helped to explain the slow progress made by Israeli ground forces in nearly five weeks of a war which Hezbollah last night claimed as “a historic victory.” Israeli political and military leaders are facing mounting criticism over the conduct of the offensive, which was intended to smash the Iranian-backed Shia militia. Outside one of the town’s two mosques a van was found filled with green casings about 6ft long. The serial numbers identified them as AT-5 Spandrel anti-tank missiles. The wire-guided weapon was developed in Russia but Iran began making a copy in 2000.' The article adds: 'The Kornet was unveiled by Russia in 1994. It is laser-guided, has a range of three miles and carries a double warhead capable of penetrating the reactive armour on Israeli Merkava tanks. Russia started supplying them to Syria in 1998.' More information at the link. (MosNews via TIS)

Debka: "Nasrallah is already carving out Lebanon's future." Debka:

Tuesday morning, an Israeli spokesman emphasized that Hassan Narallah “must” obey the Security Council resolution. If he failed to do so, Israel “would have to do the job.” DEBKAfile’s exclusive sources in Beirut report that Nasrallah’s machinations represent a reality which is a world away from this kind of rhetoric:
1. He has notified Lebanese prime minister Fouad Siniora that the only concession he is willing to make with regard to the Hizballah presence in South Lebanon is to avoid exhibiting his fighters’ weapons in a demonstrative fashion.
2. Hizballah forces in the South will not oppose the deployment of Lebanese troops and a strengthened UNIFIL force, so long as they understand who their hosts are, namely Hizballah. The inference here is that foreign peacekeepers’ steps will be dogged by Hizballah fighters. This action nullifies the injunction to the Beirut government to assert Lebanese sovereignty in every part of the country, which was stressed by the US president in his speech.
3. Siniora must stop referring to Hizballah’s disarmament else Hizballah ministers and MPs will topple his government by withdrawing their parliamentary support.

Full article at the link. (Debka)

Anti-semitism in the U.K. It'll never be the title of a catchy punk-rock tune, but DFME links Jamie Glassman at the Times:

There have always been anti- Semitic jokes. But you know times are changing when you go along to a stand-up show at the Pleasance Courtyard at the Edinburgh Fringe and you hear audience members shouting “Throw them in the oven” when the comic suggests kids should stop playing Cowboys and Indians and replace it with Nazis and Jews.

Stand-up comedy is as good a prism as any through which to look at the changing attitudes in our society. If my past few days are anything to go by then it is becoming increasingly acceptable to hate the Jews. Again.

I’ve seen two comics so far who have been happy to amuse their crowds with Holocaust gags. I’m not sure which to be the more concerned about.

One was a left-leaning angry Australian conspiracy theorist, Steve Hughes, whose show The Storm is an assault on all things Western. “I want to bash Condoleezza Rice’s brain to bits and kill that f****** Jew Richard Perle.” ...

But what is going on in Edinburgh now is no satire. For me, Hughes represents a growing trend among left-thinking people in this country and around the world to accept as dogma that those on the Left should hate Bush, Blair, American imperialism, Israel and, while we’re at it, the Jews. It is a cultural trend that I’ve found increasingly evident but never before has the Jew-hating element been so overt. This week has confirmed that my Jewish paranoia is not entirely unfounded. As the old saying goes: “Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get me.”


Read the rest at the link. It's no joke. (The Times via DFME)

Assad vows to recapture Golan Heights. As previously noted here, Syria's Bashar Assad has declared that he will retake the Golan from Israeli control. YNet: 'Syrian President Bashar Assad said his country is prepared for any war that may break out with Israel , adding that he is convinced that the chances for peace have decreased and that “the Golan Heights will be liberated by Syria.” In a special interview with Egyptian newspaper Al-Osboa, Assad said “if Israel launches a war against Syria, it will pay a heavy price.”' Read it all at the link. (YNet)

Commentary. No doubt Israel's enemies in Tehran and Damascus will see the unfinished war in Lebanon as a chance to buy time and rebuild their strength for a final assault on Israel. But the final outcome may not be up to Assad and Ahmadinejad. The Israeli public will demand more decisive action from this government - or from the next one - and opinion is building against Hezbollah on both sides of the border.

The forces of fascism, racism, and anti-semitism won't go down without a fight, but they will go down. They may think they have outsmarted progress by camouflaging themselves in the guise of "liberalism" and "progressivism", but true progress will prevail and true liberation will come - if we have the will for it.

Cross-posted at Dreams Into Lightning.

UPDATE: Fern had an excellent question about Israel's armor defenses, which I've attempted to answer. See Comments.

Asher Abrams | 08/15/06 at 02:02 PM | Categories: - The War of Dire Straits

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Hizbullah was foolish to provoke Israel, but according to Seymour Hersh, Israel was planning this assault anyway:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14526.htm

So, if Seymour is right, they were doomed to Israel's destruction of their country with or without the kinapping.

mike | August 15, 2006 03:02 PM

Mike, the kidnapping also took planning and those rockets didn't just appear out of nowhere. Israel knew Hezbollah would attack, again, and they planned for it.

Selkie | August 15, 2006 03:53 PM

mike,

Thank you for this nice conspiracy theory website*. I'll file it along with Loose Change and The Israel Lobby.

You can now slide back into your burrow.

* A sample: "Pitch Black Void" by Manuel Valenzuela, summarized, "Make no mistake, 9/11 was, and continues to be, a war upon the American people, a psychological operation directed at our minds and hearts that was, from the very start, nothing but the catalyst needed to launch Project Empire by the delusional criminals and miscreants in power."

ZionistYoungster | August 15, 2006 04:31 PM

I believe the article was by Seymour Hersh.

mike | August 15, 2006 06:20 PM

How convenient of Malik to endores the "invincible Hezzies" theory, thereby absolving the Lebanese of actually having to do anything about them.

someone | August 15, 2006 10:58 PM

On one of the American news channels (I think it was FOX?) they said that the anti-tank missles that Hizballah was using against Israel don't work on the tanks that America uses. Has there been any discussion in Israel (or perhaps it's widely known?) as to why Israel's tank technology is behind the times?

Fern | August 16, 2006 01:41 AM

I'm not certain, but I may be able to shed some light on it.

An issue of DebkaNet Weekly (which I cited here) has this to say about Israeli armor defensive systems:

As to the Israeli tank, our military experts point to some of its vulnerabilities.
1. There is no such thing as tank armor which is absolutely impregnable to attack.
2. Some of the tanks may have been from the first series that came off the Israeli production line without the protective devices affixed to the later Mark 3 and Mark 4 series.
3. Up until the shock of the July 12 Hizballah attack, Israel’s policy-makers - and therefore the army - were ruled overwhelmingly by a conviction that Israel faced no major war threat in the next five years, except for the daily grind against Palestinian terrorists. Therefore, they enacted some economies in defense spending, including cutting out the installation of Rafael’s Trophy active protection system for all the IDF’s tanks.
Trophy creates a hemispheric protected zone around a vehicle such as a tank which intercepts and destroys incoming threats. It has three elements: The Threat Detection and Warning subsystem, which consists of several sensors, including flat-panel radar placed at strategic spots around the vehicle to provide full hemispherical coverage.
Once an incoming threat is detected, identified and verified, the Countermeasure Assembly is opened and the countermeasure device positioned so as to intercept the threat. It is then launched automatically into a ballistic trajectory to intercept the incoming threat at a distance.
Trophy is marketed by General Dynamics, which plans to install the system on every new and existing combat vehicle it produces, including Stryker, M-1A2 and FCS. It has completed hundreds of live tests with Israeli Defense Forces and demonstrated its effectiveness in neutralizing anti-tank rockets and guided missiles. The system is in full-scale engineering for inclusion on the Merkava Mark 4 and the light armored vehicle (Stryker).
While Israel saw no need for this protective device until too late, DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources report that the US army, seeing the steep strategic price Israel paid for this omission, has decided to purchase the Trophy for its tanks and armored vehicles.

I hope this sheds some light on your question.

Anti-tank weaponry is an ongoing cat-and-mouse game. Defender builds reactive armor, attacker sticks an explosive probe on the front of the missile. Defender adds decoys to defeat the missile's guidance system, attacker finds a way to outsmart the decoys.

The missile we used in '91 was a TOW-2, which incorporated some Israeli upgrades into the original TOW design.

Asher - Dreams Into Lightning | August 16, 2006 02:00 AM

Thanks for the info Asher. It's kind of funny to make a strategic decision that your country faces no real military threat and thus can let down it's guard with respect to updating it's weaponry. If I was the enemy of such a country, that five year window would look like a mighty good time to attack. Maybe I'm looking at the situation too simplistically, but it seems that countries like Israel and America--who are perennial favorites of terrorists/rogue nations--can never afford to conclude that they face no serious military threat.

Fern | August 16, 2006 02:16 AM

Mike:

Seymour Hersh's article is notable for the number of "undisclosed sources".

I posit that his undisclosed sourse is Hassan Nazrallah himself, who, from his safe haven in the Iranian embassy in Damascus, tried to spin the timing of his kidnapping having been a lucky accident, because the Israelis were caught offguard as they prepared for war. The fact that Syria has been delivering to Hezbollah thousands of rockets bought by Iran from Russia for the last five years, and the Lebanese government has failed to disarm them, as they were commmitted to do in 2004 under a UN resolution... ...strangely none of that figures into Seymour Hersh's figurings as to what was going on behind the scenes.

I suggest you make an appointment ASAP with an ear-candler so you can get the excess wax buildup between your ears reduced and have your brain operate a little more effectively.

The timing of kidnapping that finally resulted in Israeli reprisals after five years of missile attacks was entirely at the behest of Syria, which wanted to distract world attention from the inquiries into the assassination of Rafiq Hariri, and Iran, from its nuclear weapons project.

Funnily enough, Israel holds all of three Lebanese "prisoners" including the very notorious Samir Kuntar, who shot an Israeli civilian to death in front of his four year old daughter, then bashed the four year old's head in, before preceding to enter the family's apartment and murder the mother, who accidentally smothered her two year old while they hid in a crawl space. On the other hand, it is reckoned that Syria holds about 700 genuine Lebanese prisoners of conscience in its jails, but I doubt Nazrallah is concerned about getting them sprung.

Lynne | August 16, 2006 12:27 PM

Asher,

You did NOT answer Fern's question directly.

I will.

Fern,

"On one of the American news channels (I think it was FOX?) they said that the anti-tank missles that Hizballah was using against Israel don't work on the tanks that America uses. Has there been any discussion in Israel (or perhaps it's widely known?) as to why Israel's tank technology is behind the times?"

No, because Israel's tank technology is not behind the times. It's among the most advanced in the world.

The Merkava tank is the toughest & best-armored tank in the universe.

The problem is that you are not supposed to use tanks against anti-tank missiles!!

It's as simple as

"One member of an Israeli tank crew who had just left Lebanon told the Guardian: "It's terrible. You do not fight anti-tank teams with tanks. You use infantry supported by artillery and helicopters. Wide valleys without shelter are the wrong place to use tanks."

Is that clear? The Israelis allowed themselves to lumber into "kill-boxes" where, guess what, they got killed.

The Israelis didn't have bad weapons. They have great weapons. They just made some stupid battlefield decisions. The answer to that is by firing the people who made these bad decisions.

Is that clear?

(Link:http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1842276,00.html)

Sorry to link to The Guardian, but the quotation is devastating.

diana | August 16, 2006 11:22 PM

I read an article, by Walid Phares, I think, that theorizes that 1) since Hiz'ballah is not an indigenous Lebanese movement but an Iranian proxy; 2) since Iran's goal is to complete the conversion of Lebanon into a client state completely dominated by Iran and Syria, and 3) since the only thing that can conceivably prevent that is the Lebanese army, that 4) Hizb'allah has deliberately engineered a situation where the Lebanese army, supposedly taking over southern Lebanon to extend Lebanese government authority over the area, is in reality walking into a Hizb'allah trap, where they will be destroyed in the next round of fighting between Hizb'allah and Israel, which is sure to come. (Hizb'allah's refusal to disarm should show everyone where they really stand, regardless of anything else.)

I don't know about anyone else, but this is the most plausible sounding explanation I've heard of this whole thing yet. Everything fits. A Lebanon that can resist Syrian and Iranian machinations will make it difficult for Iran to carry out its schemes, and Syria has never abandoned its "dream" of reabsorbing Lebanon back into the body of "Greater Syria". Once that happens, Iran and Syria will have a free hand in Lebanon, and nothing will prevent them from stationing a real army on Israel's northern border.

Ephraim | August 22, 2006 03:54 AM

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