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November 20, 2006
Not talking back to Nonie Darwish
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Forty years ago the leaders of a revolutionary movement which had already killed millions of people in its quest for utopia gave a talk at a university, and students and faculty listened with respect. Then they verbally demolished the speakers, not by shouting them down or insulting them, but with repeated knowledgeable soft-spoken questions which exposed the weaknesses in the speakers' arguments.
Last week at Brown University, the cutting edge of the Ivy League, a speaker was canceled. Muslim students were too afraid of her to attend her talk and try - if they disagreed - to expose any weakness in her arguments. Unfortunately, this kind of cowardice and repression is is all too prevalent in Muslim organizations, especially on campuses. But in this case the Brown chapter of Hillel - the international Jewish campus organization - and the Brown women's center joined with the Muslim student organization in refusing her a forum. The Hillel Rabbi supported that decision.
Adam Brodsky of the NY Post has the story. I am posting the entire article, since the Post website doesn't keep articles up very long.
November 19, 2006 -- MUSLIMS are often accused of not speaking out sufficiently against terrorism. Nonie Darwish knows one reason why: Their fellow Muslims won't let them.Darwish, who comes from Egypt and was born and raised a Muslim, was set to tell students at Brown University about the twisted hatred and radicalism she grew to despise in her own culture. A campus Jewish group, Hillel, had contacted her to speak there Thursday.
But the event was just called off.
Muslim students had complained that Darwish was "too controversial." They insisted she be denied a platform at Brown, and after contentious debate Hillel agreed.
Weird: No one had said boo about such Brown events as a patently anti-Israel "Palestinian Solidarity Week." But Hillel said her "offensive" statements about Islam "alarmed" the Muslim Student Association, and Hillel didn't want to upset its "beautiful relationship" with the Muslim community. Plus, Brown's women's center backed out of co-sponsoring the event, even though it shares Darwish's concerns about the treatment of women. Reportedly, part of the problem was that Darwish had no plans to condemn Israel for shooting Arab women used by terrorists as human shields, or for insufficiently protecting Israeli Arab wives from their husbands.
In plugging their ears to Darwish, Brown's Muslim students proved her very point: Muslims who attempt constructive self-criticism are quickly and soundly squelched - by other Muslims.
"Speaking out for human rights, women's rights, equality or even peace with Israel is a taboo that can have serious consequences" in the Arab world, Darwish says. In part to drive home that point, she wrote a book, just out. Its title says it all: "Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel, and the War on Terror."Darwish argues that her own community - in the Middle East and in America - is hostile to criticism, even from Muslims. After 9/11, she says, many in Egypt refused to believe that Muslims were responsible. Instead, they blamed "the Zionist conspiracy." From her childhood in the '50s, she's seen seething animosity toward Jews, Israel, America and non-believers generally pervert her culture. "I asked myself, as a Muslim Arab child, was I ever taught peace? The answer is no. We learned just the opposite: honor and pride can only come from jihad and martyrdom." In elementary schools in Gaza, where she lived until age 8, Darwish learned "vengeance and retaliation. Peace," she says, "was considered a sign of defeat and weakness."
An event in 1996 inflamed her longstanding frustration with her community. Her brother suffered a stroke while in Gaza, and his Egyptian friends and relatives all agreed: To save his life, he needed to go to Hadassah hospital in Jerusalem, not to Cairo. Even though they had spent their lives demeaning Israelis - and boasting of Arab supremacy. Hadassah saved her brother's life; understandably, her appreciation for Jews and Israelis grew. Today Darwish preaches not only the almost embarrassing lengths to which Jews go to seek dialogue and peace, but also their cultural, political, scientific and economic contributions.
Such notions from anyone in the Arab Muslim world are indeed rare. But Darwish isn't just anyone: Her father was killed by Israelis. Yet she doesn't blame the Jewish state - for her father was Lt. Col. Mustafa Hafaz, an Egyptian who headed one of the modern world's first terrorist groups, the anti-Israel fedayeen in Gaza. Hafaz's terrorists killed hundreds, maybe thousands, of Israelis in cross-border attacks. Of course the Israelis fought back. Darwish realized that Egyptian ruler Gamal Abdul Nasser, who controlled Gaza, had sent her father to a certain death. Hafaz became a shahid - a martyr for jihad - and that bought Darwish's family great status. She'd rather have had her father alive.
Darwish's message is invaluable for our age. Too few Arabs and Muslims share her desire for peace with Israel, equality and cultural reform; too few speak - in their living rooms or mosques - about the need to root out radicals from among them. When one Muslim voice does raise such sentiments, it deserves to be heard. Too bad the young Muslims (and their Jewish enablers) at Brown won't hear it.
And if those values can't be espoused in America - land of tolerance and free speech - well, what hope is there for meaningful cultural change?
The person who sent me this item added:
This was the result of a very outspoken new Brown Sanctioned Muslim cleric who instilled anger and fear that such a speaker would undermine dialogue between Muslim and non-Muslim groups, and that such a speaker might result in "physical harm to his students who attended this speech". This in combination with a Hillel Director Serena Eisenberg who choose NOT to encourage her students to stand up, but instead wanted to enpower her students to make their own choices. The result? In the spirit of respectfulness and cooperation and dialogue, these students choose to cancel Nonie. They choose silence thanks to the leadership of the Hillel Director.
This controversy has already created a stir, because the main page of the Brown Hillel website carries a letter from Rabbi Eisenberg defending her decision. The letter is one vague feel-good sentence after another, and it's hard to figure out just what happened and what her position is. She applauds Darwish and praises Brown Hillel for supporting Israel advocacy on campus and bringing in controversial speakers. But then she casts Darwish as too controversial, because her writings criticize Islam, and Jewish students would be offended if the Muslim student group brought in a Jewish speaker who demeaned Judaism. Then she praises the Brown administration for helping to bring Darwish to Brown. Does that mean Darwish is going to speak after all?
BTW is this the same Brown Administration which capriciously suspended the campus Christian organization this year?
I have some questions, not just for Rabbi Eisenberg but for all Brown student and faculty:
1) Does the Brown Muslim student group have the same compunctions about bringing in a Jewish speaker who criticizes Judaism?
2) If they planned to bring one in and the Jewish students protested, would the Muslim students defer to them?
3) Has a Jew ever been silenced on a college campus for misrepresenting or denigrating Judaism?
4) Is the problem just that Darwish criticizes Islam, or that she compares it unfavorably to Judaism? For example, this appreciation of the self-reflection demanded during the High Holidays, contrasted with the shame/honor imperative of the Islam she grew up with. Is it that Darwish criticizes the Arab Middle East, or that she defends Israel?
5) Is it an acceptable stance at a university supposedly committed to the free flow of ideas for either group to have veto power over the others' invited speakers? Whatever happened to reasoned disagreement? If Darwish is saying things that aren't true or are unfair, let the Muslim students attend her speech and respectfully ask her tough questions.
In addition to posting her tribute to Jewish culture, Kesher Talk has written before about Nonie Darwish here and here and here.
If you can't see Darwish at Brown, thanks to YouTube you can see her speak elsewhere, for example: a pro-Israel rally this summer . . .
. . . . on MSNBC . . . .
. . . . on FOX News . . .
Judith | 11/20/06 at 10:43 PM | Categories: - Wackademia
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Comments
I heard Ms. Darwish on the Mark Belling show in Milwaukee last month. I can't figure out exactly what is "controversial" or "offensive" to non-Muslims about her ideas--maybe pointing out that the Arab Muslim culture is dysfunctional all on its own takes away some of the soothing power of white/American guilt?
radishthegreat
| November 21, 2006 10:33 AM
Now I understand what happened in Germany in the 1930's. People like Rabbi Eisenberg did not confront the evil that they faced. The Nazis thrived on hatred, largely directed at the Jews.
We can only hope that others wake up to a similar situation today. It is the Islamists against all non-Muslims. What will it take? You would think the WTC would be enough along with countless overseas attacks. I pray it won't require losing a US city, or more.
La Mano | November 21, 2006 10:42 AM
Typical jewish cowardice and appeasement. Why does this suprise anyone? If jews are culturally suicidal, fine, let them commit "suicide by appeasement", let them enter into the dhimmitude that they seem so determined to surrender to. But for god's sake, don't let them drag the US down as well!!!
Smarty | November 21, 2006 12:33 PM
Problem is, many Jewish organization started this "fear of speech" factor by seeking to stop all sorts of "hate" speech.
Want to claim there are racial difference? HATE!
Trying to curb immigration? HATE!
Talk about ending affirmative action? HATE!
It seems that the label of "hate" keeps getting bigger and bigger, being applied to things that may just make you uncomfortable.
And yes, even people who wish to "debate" the "undebatable" - the Holocaust.
You have to decide. Do you want real open debate, or just crushing of dissent?
Daveg | November 21, 2006 02:20 PM
Interesting post.
P.S. "Smarty" above smells like a phony to me.
slickdpdx | November 21, 2006 03:36 PM
The fear of ideas that contoversial or different seem to be at many universities. Oddly enough the university which is supposed to be place of free exchange is now becoming the opposite--one of repression. I have the impression that lberal jews ( securlar or otherwise ) just want to hide and avoid any controversy. University administrators have lost the moral courage to stand up for the freedom of speech and academic freedom that they have advocated. One thing that is important is to ask: Exactly what is it they are afraid of ? If it is violence or threats of same ( or whatever the reason ) we in the greater American community should be made aware.
martin j smith | November 21, 2006 04:01 PM
The fear of ideas that contoversial or different seem to be at many universities. Oddly enough the university which is supposed to be place of free exchange is now becoming the opposite--one of repression. I have the impression that lberal jews ( securlar or otherwise ) just want to hide and avoid any controversy. University administrators have lost the moral courage to stand up for the freedom of speech and academic freedom that they have advocated. One thing that is important is to ask: Exactly what is it they are afraid of ? If it is violence or threats of same ( or whatever the reason ) we in the greater American community should be made aware.
martin j smith | November 21, 2006 04:05 PM
First: thank you for highlighting yet another abdication of principles of free speech by an institution that claims to respect free speech.
Second: for those americans or europeans who have not had the "pleasure" or experience of living in a society like Saudi Arabia, let met suggest you have NO idea what religious intolerance, censorship, and quashing of free ideas is like. I lived among the Saudis for a year in 1988-1989; that was an eye-opener for me and I always regarded myself is relatively enlightened, liberal, and tolerant.
I can only suggest that Brown University; and the Rabbi Advisor of Hillel, really have no idea what the stakes really are--they are the epitome of Lenin's "useful idiots."
Nice blog, BTW.
rjarango | November 21, 2006 04:18 PM
i have a daughter applying to brown university next year and am apalled at the events leading up to a "controversal speaker's" cancellation. i think that those who wished to hear the lady should ask for a partial refund of the $46K tuition as they have been cheated. I am hesitant about showing this to my daughter as i have encouraged her to apply to brown university and expand her universe. she has lived all of her life in arizona and believe me it is somewhat of an intellectual desert. All of you involved in this issue need to resolve something- don't just let it die on the vine. gbest md
george best | November 21, 2006 10:34 PM
Uh...it's not Brown, but the Hillel that did this. Some folks have missed that point.
This is, indeed, an example of Jewish (American)cowardice. There is no dancing around that. It's sickening...as an American, I refuse to fight for people who won't fight for themselves. Israel needs to clean house.
Xiaoding | November 21, 2006 10:44 PM
> University administrators have lost the moral courage to stand up for the freedom of speech and academic freedom that they have advocated.
No, they haven't. Their bravery is legendary when it comes to standing up for the freedom of speech of terrorists, anarchists, socialists, communists, radical feminists, advocates of violent secession like MECHA, cop-killers, etc...
If you notice someone not firing at a common enemy, it could be because they are cowards. But it also could be that they're on the other side, firing at YOU.
waxxman
| November 21, 2006 10:55 PM
Plus ca change... When I was a student in Durham (England, not NC) the student debating society had invited Enoch Powell, then a controversial political figure on account of his (frequently misreported but nevertheless pretty extreme) views on immigration and what we would now call multiculturalism, to speak at a dinner. The speech was cancelled after threats of possibly violent protests (not, I have to say, from students but from an assortment of left-wing groups). I had gone to the dinner, not because I agreed with Powell's views but in the hope of hearing a reasonable exposition and discussion of them. It has always seemed to me that the best thing to do with "controversial" speakers is let them speak and challenge them. Or, occasionally, be persuaded by them to change your mind. (Obviously if there are grounds for suspicion that a speaker might be going to incite violence or otherwise behave inappropiately that's a different matter.)
I'm disappointed that the students at Brown didn't even require threats of violence to withdraw the invitation to Darwish. It makes no difference whether I agree with her or not, she should have been allowed to speak.
Rob | November 26, 2006 08:18 PM
Reading the various reactions to the Nonie Darwish, it is clear to me that none of the commentators have actually spoken to anyone at who goes to Brown University or was involved in the decision. If they had they would get a very different image of what happened.
As it happens I am a Brown student and an active member of Hillel. I have know about the Nonie Dariwsh for a long time and I was one of the people consulted when the Hillel executive board was making a decision about the issue. The New York Post and other commentators have completely distorted what happened in order to demonize their favorite target—Ivy League Colleges.
In their self righteous manner they’ve demonized Brown Hillel and the Muslim Student Association—turning them into “monsters” that they can easily castigate. But reality is never that simple. Most of the Muslims Student Association did not even know the speaker before it appeared in the media!! Rather than trying to “crush dissent” or “silence protest” the Muslim expressed concerns to Hillel about a speaker. The Hillel executive board obviously though his concerns were valid so decided not to sponsor the speaker. There was no coercion, no strong armed tactics, and no threats. Any other description is simply false.
Right wing commentators like to cite free speech only when it serves their interests. When Tony Judt was supposed to speak at the Polish Consulate, pro-Israel activists intervened and “silenced” him. Left wing radicals are no less guilty—the actions by students at Columbia were certainly despicable. But Nonie Darwish was not an issue of free speech—it was an issue of sponsorship. No one at the University wanted to keep Darwish from speaking at all—rather what people did not want is Hillel to sponsor the speaker. Speakers cost money. Why should Hillel have to spend money on speakers it does not want to bring. Shouldn’t we have control over out own wallets?
I know that most readers of this blog will disagree with me and probably think I am a sell-out to Muslim interests. I have enough self confidence in my Jewish identity and relationship to Israel (my grandfather was in the Haganah, my father was born in Israel) to not be bothered by such mindless attacks. But I will say this—before you attack Brown Hillel and the MSA think about what evidence you have that there some kind of massive clamp down on free speech at Brown. And then we’ll talk.
Josh | November 30, 2006 08:16 PM
"before you attack Brown Hillel and the MSA think about what evidence you have that there some kind of massive clamp down on free speech at Brown."
that's a straw man, Josh, because nowhere in this post or the NY Post artilce does anyone say that. We are very specific in our criticisms. I think my five questions are very specific, and since you go to Brown maybe you'd like to tackle them.
But Nonie Darwish was not an issue of free speech—it was an issue of sponsorship. No one at the University wanted to keep Darwish from speaking at all—rather what people did not want is Hillel to sponsor the speaker. Speakers cost money. Why should Hillel have to spend money on speakers it does not want to bring.
Why didn't Hillel want to bring her? Because a Muslim student had concerns. What are the concerns? Read my five questions, they go on from there.
Judith | December 8, 2006 01:40 AM
Perhaps Brown is to follow in the footsteps of Britain's Manchester University.... that will twin with Nablus-based An-Najah National University. Oy Vey
Mrs. T | March 17, 2007 05:47 PM













