Don't you think it's dishonest to present one soldier's viewpoint as representative of "the military?"

An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and more than one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.

http://www.zogby.com/NEWS/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075

Exactly what conclusion was I supposed to draw from those reports? There's no information in there whatsoever that would enable me to conclude that our forces are making any progress on their military objectives.

And the author's mindless snarking about "leftist peace lovers, opportunist Republican leaders, and Hollywood heroes" doesn't speak well of him.

When I was a kid there was a cold war slogan that went "if people are free to choose, they will choose to be free". The idea was that a free press informs and empowers a democratic public.

Today's twisted, western PC media blinds us to reality.

Sad.

Dry Bones
Israel's Political Comic Strip Since 1973

I'll take one American's word over that of the Taliban any day of the week. Leftists and others want us out -Period. They want America to be defeated.

First, Jewishathiest, the report deals with Afghanistan, your Zogby poll, Iraq, two entirely different places seperated by a large chunk of misery known as Iran.

Second, so? Why would anyone care what a Zogby poll says? What have they ever done to cross the skepticism boundary? Don't you know how easy it is to rig a poll? Here's the simplest method- just invent whatever numbers you feel like, when's the last time someone field checked one of these things?

I see no reason to beleive any given Zogby poll. They are not above making things up. Lord knows they've been pretty miserable in election forecasting, although creative editting on the day after always seems to correct things. On the other hand, there are cues in that report that make me suspicious. On the third hand "let us do our job" is such a common refrain from the military that to ignore it is foolhardy.

And Avram, one of the most important objectives of our military is blocking the objectives of the enemy. They wish to throw us out of Iraq and Afghanistan, as long as we stay, we are therefore blocking one of their objectives and by default, meeting one of ours. Study George Washington's campaigns- showing tenacity is, all by itself, a critical objective.

Ben

One of the goals of our enemies is to cause chaos and upheaval in Iraq and Afghanistan, and use the presence of US troops there to stir up anti-American sentiment and radicalize moderate Muslims. As long as our troops are there, we're helping them achieve that goal.

First, Jewishathiest, the report deals with Afghanistan, your Zogby poll, Iraq, two entirely different places seperated by a large chunk of misery known as Iran.

Oops! I completely missed that, sorry.

In terms of polling, you should of course take polls with a grain of salt, but Zogby has a pretty good track record. Even though he personally called the election for Kerry in '04, his poll numbers reflected the truth better than anyone else's. He was also good in '06.