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March 30, 2007
A motion for cherem
In a previous post about the factional fighting in the Brit "anti-Zionist" movement, frequent Kesher Talk commenter "Cynic" says:
Isn't it about time that something was done about distinguishing the "accident" of birth and/or names from those who identify with Judaism and its practices?Maybe there should be a "Not In Our Name" movement making this plain to those in the market place that the Chomskys and Shamirs do not form part of the people of Israel?
This idea is very tempting. But like attempts to define "free speech" and "pornography," motions to read individuals out of the Jewish people are fraught with partisanship. "I know it when I see it" is not a good enough argument. To their credit, our leaders have always been reluctant to place an individual in cherem, perhaps feeling that such a small and embattled people cannot afford to repudiate even its most despicable members. Or more so, refusing to close the door to tshuvah.
But some of these people really hate Jews, and furthermore, tell lies about us, and even further, build their careers around telling lies about us, and finally, most of them do not consider themselves part of the Jewish people in any way. The only time they place the Jewish hat upon their heads is to pose for the cameras as dissident Jews who defy the supposed blanket of conformity imposed by the mainstream Jewish community (a real laugh, considering the rampant ideological anarchy throughout our divisive nation, which we not only tolerate but are proud of).
Yet I agree with Cynic that there must be some organized effort to call these people out, preferably with a little Groucho-like humor. Ideas are welcome.
Judith | 03/30/07 at 12:11 AM | Categories: - Antisemitism watch
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Residents of Chelm?
Harry | March 29, 2007 08:19 PM
I have called for the excommunication of Chomsky, Soros, Finklestein and others previously on this blog and in other fora.
Sure there are hard cases and line drawing and slippery slopes, but the current situation is no longer tolerable. Bell, book and candle. let's go.
Robert Schwartz | March 29, 2007 11:02 PM
I wonder Robert...
If you were adopted by a non-Jewish family what you'd be like.
Do you think you would have those views, or are your views strong because you identify with being Jewish.
Then again... God would probably speak to you and tell you that you were chosen by Him.
There's no psychology here at all...
It's all... uh... genetic? uh... spiritual? uh... help me out here! what is it?
jojo | March 29, 2007 11:27 PM
jojo: If bubbee had baitsim she would have been zaideh.
Chomsky, Soros, Finklestein have given aid and comfort to declared enemies of the Jewish people. I think we should deal with them on that basis.
Robert Schwartz | March 30, 2007 09:56 PM
Judith,
It is not fraught with partisanship when we disclose that Israel Shamir is actually a (converted?) Greek Orthodox Christian who in Sweden is Joran Jermas and writes for anti-semitic papers in Russia etc. That Ilan Pappe's doctoral students have forged their theses on Israeli history, and so on.
These people cannot assume to be Jew or Israeli on the whim of some nefarious purpose, in my name.
Jews can be of whatever political design they choose but their actions cannot be used to tar all Jews, so typical of MSM for example when bringing in the religion of some guy arraigned in court.
Jews get the rap, and many of them are not even American, because of the actions of some Jewish sounding names on the ACLU?
Their must be a concerted effort that a Finkelstein or a Kasrils can not use the accident of his birth to lend credence to his words or justify his actions.
When it comes down to it those who have a platform to be heard should go on the offensive and expose and attack: for example Sigmund, Carl and Alfred has a post
Moral Rejectionism
where instead of defending against the charge of "Apartheid" he writes:
When the Israelis build a fence to protect themselves from suicide bombers and those who choose to celebrate such events, it can be referred to as an ‘Apartheid’ barrier, because it is a barrier built to keep the institutionalized hate and violence that define apartheid, out of their society.
Pity this sort of argument was not slung in Carter's face, or Dugard's for that matter.
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| March 31, 2007 02:46 PM
