That is intriguing.

"Attacking Iran" brought to you by the same people who:

1) thought that Iraq would work out nicely... and still support the Bush policy. Yeah, more of the same...

2) thought that Israel would have an easy time against the rag-tag Hezbollah

3) thought that Rudy Giuliani would be a good choice for GOP candidate

4) think that their beliefs/ideas are going to survive beyond their death

Reality check:

Rudy has a snowball's chance in hell of being the next President, or EVEN winning the nomination.

But of course, reality is not a concern here at Kesher Talk.

Dear Judith (aka Kesher Talk Censor):

Are you afraid of this post?

I was wondering if you would answer the following questions:

1) Did you think that attacking Lebanon would be a cakewalk for Israel?

2) Did you believe that Iraq would be a cakewalk for the USA?

3) Do you really think Rudy has any chance?

And now... you think attacking Iran is a good idea?

Let me ask you one more thing... Have you EVER questioned your own judgment given your very poor record?

A sane person would look back and say: "Well now... I've been wrong so many times that maybe I should reconsider whether or not I'm as smart as I think I am."

Final question: Are you afraid of this post? If so why?

Judith = Censorship

What are you afraid of Judy?

Words?

Boo!

Actually I find two things intriguing. One, that KT is the only blog to link to 4MC's piece since it was posted last year. And two, that a week after Israel's cowardly and unprovoked bombing of Syria a post encouraging attacks on both Iran and Saudi Arabia (plus violation of Iraqi airspace) draws only a "hmmm" from Judith.

It doesn't make me go "hmmmm". It makes me wonder what kind of a cesspool this blog is turning into.

If such a vile thing were to occur, then Israel wold fully deserve to be obliterated by nuclear, bilogicl, chemical and any other kind of weaponry, and the nations of the world would be queing up to do it. Is that what you want?

Someone else linked to it because that's where I got my link from. Forget who now.

Rob. You are saying that if Israel destroys Iran's nuclear reactor, then "then Israel wold fully deserve to be obliterated by nuclear, bilogicl, chemical and any other kind of weaponry, and the nations of the world would be queing up to do it."

Is that what you are saying? If I don't have a "no" within 24 hours, you're banned. Because you are advocating the most horrible kind of genocide as a punishment for defending against attempted genocide.

If you think the airspace of Syria and Iran and Saudi are so fucking precious, after the threats they have made and the nations they have attempted to destroy..... Right now Syria is trying to throw the Lebanese election with one more carbomb. They funded Hezbollah. That's ok with you? Most Lebanese would say otherwise.

I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt, but you defend totalitarian scumbags and their attempts at genocide just like every other solialist I've ever seen. And you think you're being so cute and clever.

Hitler destroyed one third of the Jewish people. You are saying that half the Jewish people would deserve to be destroyed for removing the same genocidal threat.

Either apologize or go fuck yourself.

No, I've changed my mind.

If you could say something like that at all you are a very nasty individual with a thin veneer of mock-decency and a sorry excuse for a moral sense totally unmoored from reality. Again, very in keeping with the kind of stalinists they grow in the UK.

You're banned. If you have thought through what you just said and are aghast at yourself, you can email me an apology and I will unban you.

If you can post links to shit like that, then even if Kerstein no longer blogs for you, fuck you, I'm not interested in your blog either.

Israel is under no genocidal threat or any other "threat" whatsoever, nor has it been since its foundation. 4MC isn't bothered about nuclear reactors, he just wants israel to act the playground bully some more, like in Syria, or back in the days when you bombed Baghdad. Or sank the USS Liberty. Brave acts all.

I realise this won't appear (I know what "banned" means) but you can read it, so I shall sign off by saying that after giving you the "benefit of the doubt" for far longer than you deserve, I shall proudly shake the sludge of what has become a cheap hangout for Islamophobes and paranoids from my feet.

Say "fuck off, you untalented little shite" to Benjamin for me.

This comment got through because you were still listed in my plugin Email Whitelister, which trumps all the other filters. So I just removed you from that. I don't mind letting your last comment stand because it again shows your true colors.

Your overweening arrogance is amazing."...after giving you the benefit of the doubt for far longer than you deserve." Look, you came onto my blog over and over for the past year. I didn't ask for that, but we were happy to have you because we are nice people. We thought you were sadly deluded, and you had most of your facts wrong (as you do now) but it was your choice. Now you condescendingly announce that you were "giving us the benefit of the doubt." Spare me.

"...back in the days when you bombed Baghdad."

Israel bombed Baghdad? In your alternate universe maybe, where Ahmadinejad and Assad are innocent victims of big bad Israel. One more "fact" from your fevered imagination. (You probably meant the Osirak reactor, which was in Iraq's western desert - can you read a map?) An action, BTW, which every middle east nation was grateful for, whether they were willing to admit it or not.

So you are now on record as saying that if Israel destroys Iran's nuclear reactor - again, an action which every Arab state will be grateful for, whether they admit it or not, not to mention Iran's and Syria's dissidents and most of Europe - genocide of the Jews is ok by you.

So you hope Hitler's biggest fan finishes the job?

Welcome to the world of the British Left, folks. Eagerly sucking genocidal dictators' cocks.

PS Plus the fact that any bomb strong enough to cause Israel "to be obliterated by nuclear, bilogicl, chemical and any other kind of weaponry" as you say, would also eradicate your precious Palestinians. Several years ago when Rafthsanjani first made the threat to vaporize Israel, he came out and said bluntly that no matter how Israel retaliated, since the Muslim world is much more populous, it would win. Even though it was pointed out that the Palestinians would be destroyed along with Israel, he said that would just be collateral damage.

But that probably didn't occur to you because you can't read a map.

Wow, you write that Israel should attack Iran and "strike nearly anywhere in Iran". When Rob writes that Israel will deserve to be attacked back again you ban him. What he wrotes makes perfect sense and what you wrote is plain wrong, you really do not see that at all?

Wow, you write that Israel should attack Iran and "strike nearly anywhere in Iran".

I never wrote "Israel should strike nearly anywhere in iran." And I don't know anyone who thinks that would be a good idea. Taking out the nuclear installations would be a good idea, if it could be done effectively without hurting the general population.

Sure, Israel would get attacked back. But it's under threat of attack now.

I banned Rob after more than a few unjustifiable comments which I let slide. He didn't say "Israel will be attacked back." He said, and I quote from a comment in this thread (just look above yours):

"Israel wold fully deserve to be obliterated by nuclear, bilogicl, chemical and any other kind of weaponry, and the nations of the world would be queing up to do it."

That's why I banned him. He was advocating genocide using WMDs, which is several orders of magnitude more than Israel or any other nation is advocating for Iran. you really do not see that at all?

"Taking out the nuclear installations would be a good idea, if it could be done effectively without hurting the general population."

Maybe Iran should think of "taking out the nuclear installations" of Israel "without hurting the general population." as well.

Or would that be crazy talk to complete hypocrites like yourself.

Read the Ten Commandments. You might learn something about Jewish spiritualism.

I know... I know... Jews get to pick and choose which Commandments apply in a given situation...

My mistake.

But really... Should Iran bomb Israel? Israel is threatening them, so by your logic, Iran should bomb Israel. Make a pre-emptive strike if you will...

I'm happy most people are less hypocritical than you. We'd be in even more trouble if they were.

"Read the Ten Commandments. You might learn something about Jewish spiritualism.

I know... I know... Jews get to pick and choose which Commandments apply in a given situation..."

A comment made by an ignoramus or a Jew hater-- or both...

Ignoramuses don't understand the difference between "murder" and "kill". Study the Torah in Hebrew, and learn the difference (there are death penalties for violating certain commandments... couldn't very well have those if the commandment was really "thou shalt not kill", eh?).

And how bout posting some verifiable facts about when Israel has threatened to use nuclear weapons on a non-enemy that hasn't already threatened to annihilate her? Yeah...can't find any... maybe that's why Israel having nuclear weapons ain't quite the same as, say, Iran having them (Iran being led by a man who has repeatedly publicly stated that he seeks to hasten the arrival of the 12th Mahdi by DESTROYING the "arrogant"- Israel AND the USA). Look it up. Better yet- learn Farsi and Arabic, and read/hear what THEY have to say in THEIR OWN WORDS.

I know.... I know... It's only okay to threaten Iran. If THEY do the same then it's unjustified... because... uh... forget it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133899,00.html

http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1292472003

Iran threatening retaliation isn't fair.

Only Israel can threaten countries in the middle east.

Now I know and understand that.

Thanks Dooda McCheese or whatever...

I agree 100% with Goggles.

Why does Israel have the right to have nuclear weapons? Why do they have the right to threaten to use it when not faced with nuclear weapons? (see Samson Option). Yet when another country tries to do the same you do not like it.

Do I smell double standards. Go ahead ban me too like you did with with Rob for posing a counter argument that exposed your post. I guess democracy does not extend to your blog, shows how shallow you are.

Wow. Doda got schooled.